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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Nov 12, 2012 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: what is it bout ohio

cant remember hearing bout this one... http://archive.org/details/gd1981-11-30.sbd.miller.108843.flac16

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 13, 2012 12:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what is it bout ohio

Terrible weather is inspirational? I was at that show. I wish I could say I remember that Mack the Knife, but unfortunately I have a rotten memory for set lists. (Not that it was much like a song. Probably just seemed like goofing around or tuning at the time.)

Basically what I remember is that the drive was dark, cold, and either snowy or rainy (although that could go for just about any Ohio show, LOL), the auditorium had maybe a few thousand people (also par for the course then), and the mood was kind of underground-ish. I've read the band was the highest-grossing touring band in the country at that point, but it really didn't feel like it in Ohio.

Thanks for the reminder! It's really fun to hear it again. A lot of Brent's playing is the organ, which I like, and IMO fits the whole dark-and-rainy-night mood of Ohio shows :-)

BTW, just for context, this show and the Pittsburgh show the night before were the band's first ones after the 2nd '81 Europe tour.

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Poster: Deadhead225 Date: Nov 13, 2012 5:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what is it bout ohio

Another great "fall" run. Check out all the hot shows all the way to the culmination on New Years. 12/3 & 12/5 are some of my favorites. I'm going to re-visit 11/29 & 30 thanks to your reminder.

Crummy weather never bothered us. It was always toasty inside and the boredom of chocolate milk skies seemed to lead to inspired playing. The only complaint I had was standing on the ice on the floor in all those hockey arenas. I attribute TAIDS directly to that.

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Nov 13, 2012 5:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what is it bout ohio

72, 74 and 81

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Nov 13, 2012 5:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what is it bout ohio

yes they played europe in 72 and 74, but they played in both March and October of 1981 as well, which I believe is what AR meant by "2nd '81 Europe tour" .

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 13, 2012 8:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what is it bout ohio

I reviewed this one for my Ohio project.

11-30-81 - Hara Arena, Dayton, OH
1: Minglewood Blues, Mack the Knife tuning, Bird Song> Little Red Rooster, They Love Each Other, Cassidy, Tennessee Jed, Let It Grow> Don't Ease Me In
2: Women Are Smarter, It Must Have Been the Roses, Estimated Prophet> Eyes of the World> Drums> The Other One> Wharf Rat> Sugar Magnolia, E: Might As Well

Source: http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-11-30.nak300.munder.9591.sbeok.shnf

This was the second stop on the Dead’s first tour since the fall in Europe. This 5,000-seat arena in Dayton was still fairly intimate. A pretty good audience source on this one.

Rockin’ Minglewood is a pretty good way to start the Dead’s first show ever in Dayton, birthplace of the Wright brothers, Guided by Voices and lots of other greats. “Mack the Knife” is a little bit over-celebrated here -- pretty much just a one verse filler/tuning while they’re working out technical difficulties. But this is a pretty mean Bird Song. Jerry dials in and finds some room to really soar around that old arena. Good stuff. A great Rooster follows – this really was a good era for Lil Red Rooster. TLEO is fine, and after that they really start to cook. Cassidy and Jed are both very well played. Let it Grow is extraordinary – probably the best 80s Ohio track so far. And Don’t Ease is a nice little rocker to close it out.

Samson and IMHBTR work surprisingly well as the first two slots of set two. I actually think a Samson opener bodes well for the rest of the set. Estimated is good, but it’s Eyes that’s the real payoff here. This one doesn’t sound too terribly rushed or slow or anything – it’s just right in the groove. The back end is anchored by an exceptionally strong Wharf Rat, featuring some pretty heady jamming down the wire – a little rough around the edges, but Jerry is so amped up that it all works out. Sugar Mag is also played with vigor and elan. Great show all-around. Best Ohio show of ‘81 by far.

Highlights: Let it Grow, Eyes, Wharf, Sugar Mag

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 13, 2012 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what is it bout ohio

Been enjoying (re)listening to this, and I definitely think you tagged it -- LiG, Eyes and Wharf Rat are real standouts -- and it also struck me that the drums > space > TOO feels somewhat like 10/19/81 in Barcelona. There's a pretty focused Spanish-y feel to it for a while, which was also the case (surprise!) in Spain.

Btw do you have a link to your Ohio project?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 13, 2012 9:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what is it bout ohio

Here's the link, though I'm pretty sure you're going to need to sign up for the Transitive Axis forum to see it.

I'd also be happy to send it to you if you provide an email.

http://transitiveaxis.forumup.us/viewtopic.php?t=82&;mforum=transitiveaxis